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Executive Interviews: Interview with Subir Ghosh on Customer-centric Organizations
December 2010 - By Dr. Nagendra V Chowdary


Subir Ghosh
Subir Ghosh



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  • Your illustrious experience spawns nearly 28 years in diverse industries like consumer products, consumer durables, and the telecom and retail sectors. And all of them have been highly customer centric. What customer experience insights do you think have all these years of experience distilled in you?
    The first and foremost insight is that customer centricity starts with the mindset of the leadership of the organization. It must believe that what is good for customers is good for the organization and that meeting and exceeding customer expectations is the only path to growth and profitability on a sustained basis as the organization exists only because it has customers.

    This is then backed by the belief that external customer-centricity is nothing but a function of internal customercity, i.e., your team members will enable customers only to the extent to which they are enabled by the organizations values, policies and practices. Putting it in a nutshell there would ideally be only two kinds of roles in a customercentric organization, ones that enable the customer and the ones that enable those who enable the customer, all other roles must cease to exist.

  • Your experience also meant seeing a metamorphic change in Indian consumer and his/her mindset. Can you take us through some of those metamorphic changes?
    The Indian customer like the Indian citizen, is beginning to become conscious of his ability to make a difference to the fortunes of organizations and the world and has thus begun to demand that he be taken seriously. With a huge proliferation in brands and, thus, choice combined with huge media proliferation, organizations cannot hope to cash in from the consumers ignorance anymore. Nevertheless, he is not as demanding as his western counterparts owing to a large number of customers being from the lower socioeconomic strata who are getting their first taste of branded goods and services in most categories and thus hold these brands in awe and feel that the organizations are doing a favor on them by giving them access to these goods and services, while in fact it is the other way round and they are doing a favor on the organization by providing growth and profits to these firms. But I am sure we will get there fast especially with more choices emerging in every single category and with the initial sense of awe and admiration wearing off the customer would become more aware of the promises being made in the firm's communication messages and what he is actually getting, added to this he will have many more new firms competing for his attention and his business which will make him far more conscious of his worth. He will assert and demand much more from the brands and the organizations in the days to come.

  • Why an exclusive Institute of Customer Experience Management? What are the unique features of the Institute of Customer Experience Management?
    Our institution is dedicated to applying the science of customer experience to address the challenges of growth and profitability for organizations engaged in the service sector economy. Having said that lets just explain how we define customer experience; customer experience, according to us, is the sum total of all interactions that a customer has with a firm's products, processes, people and the physical environment in which it delivers the product/service in. It produces a rational and emotional response in customers which either enhances the customers bonding or loosens it with the company and its products/services and we all know what are the commercial implications of these outcomes.

    Moreover, India today is fast emerging as a service economy where the service sector is the largest contributor to the country's GDP and interestingly the services business is characterized by either a lack of the physical product (or a token one at best, example, a credit card or a telecom sim card) or absolutely identical products and brands available with every player with absolutely identical pricing (Colgate toothpaste and other toothpaste brands being available with every retailer at almost the same price) thereby making it very difficult to differentiate the offering between competing firms.

    While all of them adopt different communication strategies one must understand that advertising at best creates a promise, the fulfillment of the promise happens only when the consumer engages with firm and experiences a dissonance or consonance with the advertising promise which is nothing but customer experience. This is the absolute moment of truth and unless firms are deeply focused on understanding and managing these moments, there is no way it will grow and become profitable.

    Thus, the science of customer experience is a make or break for organizations not only in the services sector but all the other firms as well because customers don't buy products, they buy solutions to their life's challenges.

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